The AUOB Aberdeen march – an amazing scene

Revised 2 September 2019 – see footnote.

I have long been a sceptic of the claimed attendance at AUOB (All Under One Banner) marches and rallies. Their latest effort in my home town of Aberdeen on Saturday 17 August gave me the chance to apply a little local knowledge to my scepticism.

My day kicked off with this image:

You’ll notice it was posted at 1.25 p.m., just before the march was due to begin at 1.30 p.m. You’ll also doubtless be impressed with the size of the crowd and their evident enthusiasm even before they’ve started their long trudge down Union Street.

The only problem is the picture isn’t of Aberdeen. A simple enquiry on Twitter brought forth the definitive answer from numerous respondents (thanks, people) that this was the lower end of the Royal Mile in Edinburgh. It had even been used once before by The Guardian newspaper. The confirmation provoked a reluctant admission from @ScottishPoliticsNews that ‘This is a generic indy march photo … Thank you for your feedback.’ Hmm.

Still, the image did remind me that every AUOB march I’ve seen reported had generated pictures of similar enthusiastic flag-waving masses. And sure enough, at 6.24 p.m. the same day this image appeared on Twitter:

By 7.42 p.m. it had been reposted by one Neil Mackay with some added hyperbolic prose. Mackay says he’s one of the founders of AUOB and he must be the survivor from their recent inter-necine warfare:

Mr Sands (see above) turned out to have been the photographer who took the image. He had placed it on his Facebook page Scotland’s Folk just before he copied it to Twitter. Here it is in its original form:

© Thomas Sands Photography

His Facebook page says ‘All the photos I take are free for you to download’ so I’ve done just that. The image is central to what follows.

Unlike similar photos of massed marchers in other towns and cities, I know the site of this image very well. Sands’ photo gives a false (indeed a stunningly misleading) impression of the march, but to understand that it’s helpful to know the local geography. Here is a map showing Union Street. You’ll see I’ve annotated it underneath with features I mention later in this post:

auob aberdeen map updated

  • A – Gathering point for march (off map)
  • B – Western end of Union Street
  • C – Eastern end of Union Street
  • D – Castlegate with the Mercat Cross
  • E – The College, in Albyn Place
  • F – St Nicholas kirkyard
  • G – Junction of Union Street and Broad Street
  • H – Town House
  • I – Union Terrace Gardens
  • J – Music Hall

To give context to the march, those taking part gathered in and around some public gardens off the left of the map (A). They then proceeded down the length of Union Street, which is about 1.25 km long, (from B-C on the map), before a more informal gathering and dispersal in the Castlegate, which includes the Mercat Cross (D). The organisers had wished to continue to the beach for a rally, but this was vetoed by the police on road safety grounds.

In a reply to the original version of this article (in the comments below) the photographer, Mr Sands, confirmed that he had taken his  photo from just by the Brewdog pub near the Castlegate end of Union Street (opposite the Town House at point H on the map). It must show virtually the whole length of the street because just behind the council’s (non-political) banners over the street you can see this building:

which is shown on Google street view like this:

and which is part of The College, an old church building converted into a bar. It is at point E in Albyn Place, just to the West of Union Street.

On the right-hand side of the photo you’ll see what appears to be a tall imposing neo-classical building:

In fact, it’s the façade of St Nicholas kirkyard, a city centre cemetery (shown at F on the map) and in reality looks like this:

© Copyright Bill Harrison and licensed for reuse under a Creative Commons Licence

The façade is a grand total of 122 metres long.

The two images are so different because Mr Sands has taken his photo with a zoom lens that gives a large depth of field, that is to say parts of the image close to the photographer and much further away are both – more or less – in focus. It also has the effect, as can be seen from the images of St Nicholas kirkyard, of making things that are further apart, in this instance the columns of the kirkyard façade, look much closer to each other than they are in reality. The same is true of the people in his picture of the AUOB march. The dense crowd of marchers seem to fill the length of Union Street, their mass emphasised by the sea of flags they carry.

Other photos show that the reality was somewhat different, for example:

taken at point G on the map and posted on Twitter by @AirdrieForIndy.

But how long was a march that seems to fill a packed Union Street throughout its length?

If you look carefully at Mr Sands’ photo, you will see at least three vehicles to the rear of the marchers, a yellow truck flanked by two taller trucks:

All have their hazard lights flashing and undoubtedly mark the end point of the march somewhere along Union Street. Someone with knowledge of road closures in the city centre has confirmed that they are part of the council’s routine clear-up after events, removing barriers and road closure signs.

The front of the march is also clearly included, in the foreground of the photo, because there is a glimpse at the centre-bottom of the letter ‘B’ on the banner:

that was carried at the front of the march (also posted on Twitter by @AirdrieForIndy):

But better than this, and thanks to @Fyrishsunset on Twitter, we can see a very different view of the march, taken at 2.14 p.m. from the Aberdeen city council webcam located on top of the Town House at point H on the map:

auob 15

Three points can be made about this photo:

  1. the three council vehicles mentioned above can be seen far behind the marchers. Because of the quality of the image, it’s difficult to see precisely where they are but my guess is that it’s somewhere adjacent to Union Terrace Gardens, I on the map: the buildings to the vehicles’ right are probably on the West side of Union Terrace adjacent to the Gardens
  2. unlike the impression given in Mr Sands’ photo, the vehicles are a substantial distance behind the last marchers, who are followed more closely by a single vehicle, probably a police car
  3. also unlike the impression given by Mr Sands’ photo, but supporting the impression given by one of the photos above, the marchers do not form a solid mass of humanity but are spread out with substantial gaps where they do not fill the width of the street.

So, less than 45 minutes after the scheduled start of the march, it had proceeded in its entirety more than half-way down a street only 1.25 km long.

I have no personal idea of the number of marchers that would fit into that space but as usual with AUOB events a range of estimates have appeared:

  • by the organisers – 12,000
  • by a small group of unionist counter-demonstrators who attend each AUOB march – 2,563
  • by Police Scotland – 4,000-5,000 (cited on the BBC website)

After I wrote this, someone brought my attention to an Independence Live video of the whole march passing the Music Hall on Union Street (J on the map). First come a few dozen ‘Yes bikers’, followed by a long gap then a pipe band and the march itself. It ends as the three council vehicles I describe above pass the camera. The whole event takes a mere 27 minutes, with the march proper following the bikers not passing the camera until about 15 minutes in.

How many marchers can pass a single point in 12 minutes? For the AUOB claim of 12,000 marchers to be correct, 1,000 people would have had to pass that point every minute. To put it another way, that would be two whole battalions of British infantry every 60 seconds: it’s impossible. Even assuming the mid-point of my preferred police estimate, 4,500, would require 375 marchers to step smartly past the Music Hall every minute. In this context, the unionist group’s oddly precise estimate of 2,563 marchers – about 213 every minute – starts to look realistic.

Expressed like this, the spectacle starts to seem quite pathetic. If we assume generously that the actual number of marchers was a median 4,500 it was, frankly, a feeble turnout in a city, Scotland’s third largest, with a population of 228,000 people. Moreover, many of the participants seem to comprise a travelling body of supporters that treks around the country to each AUOB event. If a generous 70% of the marchers here were Aberdonians, the conclusion must be that less than 1.4% of the local population marched for independence. Put another way, 98.6% of the locals couldn’t be bothered to turn out for a Saturday afternoon dander for the cause so many are supposed to be passionate about.

I’m sure Mr Sands’ picture will be used time and again to provide an iconic image of the march and to promote its success. It is striking as a photograph. But it does not tell the truth about what was a relatively small event that must have disappointed its organisers. Whether Mr Sands means it to or not, it will be used as a piece of misleading propaganda to add to all the other misleading images and claims that come out of AUOB events.

Remember all this when you see any photograph of events showing the unstoppable march of Scotland towards independence. It’s not happening.

Footnote 2 September 2019. This revised version takes account of information I received after the original article was published, in particular (1) I have incorporated conclusions drawn from the Independence Live video referred to and (2) I have removed a suggestion (it was no more than that) that Mr Sands’ photo might have been ‘doctored’: it wasn’t, and I acknowledged that to him. These issues are touched on in the comments received on the original article and which I have left below.

 

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18 Responses to The AUOB Aberdeen march – an amazing scene

  1. George A Hill says:

    Pretty much sums up all of the marches, if the support for Indy was as strong as is often stated, why is there a need to hugely exaggerate the numbers? Misinformation from unsavoury, disingenuous people it seems!

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  2. Paulie Walnuts says:

    Hi Roger

    Thanks for the informative article. I’m particularly pleased to read it because I think challenging the AUOB attendance estimates is a valid thing to do, but hitherto it has been left to ‘A Force For Good’ to come up with alternative count. I don’t think It does the unionist cause any favours to endorse, RT, etc AFFG counts given the personalities involved (Former BNP /Britannica, Holocaust deniers)

    I’m one of the respondents who challenged some of your statements around the nature of the lens used and the composition technique for the shot, so I’ll pick up your gauntlet re. Comments..

    I only added the extra information as your understanding, or description of your understanding was a bit sloppy from a technical point of view.

    Nationalists will use any lever to debunk, any excuse to play the man rather than the ball, so it was an attempt to avoid this and I apologise if my intent was not clear.

    Because of the landscape, that the March was on a down hill facing the camera, the March possibly had it’s height (and therefore perception of depth of crowd) increased in the frame.. there are other clues to the relative distances between the background vehicles, such as loss of sharpness, and loss of contrast, an effect of UV light over substantial distances..

    It was a complicated shot to judge from for all over these reasons.. the elevated cctv gives a much better idea of numbers and flow,but is a less appealing shot aesthetically.

    Keep up the good work. Apologies for my pedantry.

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    • Roger White says:

      Thanks for your comments. You’ll see I’ve already added a general comment about the lens/shot and I appreciate your understanding. I still believe that the shot distorts and exaggerates the view of the event, something borne out by the other images available, some of which I’ve used. I know what you mean about the counter-protesters. I deliberately did not use their name but I suspect their estimates are as valid as the optimistic (I’m being kind) claims of march organisers/participants. Both form the extremes of a range at every AUOB event I’ve seen discussed online. Which is why on balance I prefer the police estimate. They, after all, deal with many marches and events and are more likely to have some expertise at objectively estimating numbers. Again, thanks for reading and commenting.

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  3. Bob Hosie says:

    As a keen amateur photographer, I am intrigued by the main Aberdeen shot. In order to compress the perspective as shown, a very long lens would be required, maybe 500mm. When a long lens of this nature is used, only a very narrow portion of the length of the street would be in sharp focus (a shallow depth of field) To overcome this, a procedure known as focus stacking can be used. This is a series of shots focussing on a number of points along the length of the street, for example, and combined in Photoshop to give a more agreeable end result. I do not consider this photograph is achievable in a single shot in camera, but there are numerous tricks of the trade available. Great article, though.

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    • Paulie Walnuts says:

      Hi Bob, for subjects at a close focus distance, yes you would get paper thin depth of field at a range of apertures, but the further the subject is from the camera the more depth of field latitude there is around the focus point, at any aperture. This is a function of perspective and a function of circle of confusion theory. It’s an extreme situation with the very telephoto lense that has been used. It’s telephoto compression combined with a distant focus point. That combined with the shape of the landscape and the position of the camera has a slightly misleading effect.

      It’s a good editorial shot, it’s not a shot I would rely on to bear objective witness.

      I am with Roger in the spirit and conclusion of his article.

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    • Thomas Sands says:

      Unfortunately you are wrong. This is single shot, not stacked or a composite.

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      • Roger White says:

        Thanks for your three comments which (as you see) I’m happy to publish. Even though you make your images freely available and I acknowledge your copyright I should have let you know I had used it and I apologise for not doing so. I hope you’ll accept the article is, in effect, in two parts. In relation to the second, the paragraph on whether two images had been combined into one I was deliberately cautious, beginning ‘I have no direct evidence … ‘ and ‘Congratulations to the photographer if he caught the moment…’ I am happy to acknowledge that my speculation was unfounded. I note that you don’t comment on the main part of the article and, effective as your image is, I stand by my position that it is profoundly misleading of what the march actually looked like. Still, thanks for commenting and in a measured way. Doesn’t always happen!

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  4. Lawrie Kerr says:

    Good work, Roger. Thank you.

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  5. Pete Simpson says:

    The unionist number is about right.

    I used to work on events in the city center, and there’s no way you can get 2000 in the Castlegate, let alone 12,000.

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  6. Ann Hewitt says:

    Very interesting thank you…They are such cheats and liars how could anyone in their right mind vote for these unprofessional bunch of pond life,,,,only other pond life and they want to run a country !!!! I have not seen or heard one intelligent, smart, sensible person with class, who I have thought “that is a good idea” they cannot debate why is this? Perhaps it was my brother who gave you the video? he is totally obsessed with the SNP we cannot talk about politics,, Scotland is British

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  7. Patrick Wight says:

    More traitor talk from an anti Scot!
    Hang your head.

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  8. Sam Duncan says:

    That’s not a rally. This is a rally.

    Levity aside, spot the difference. No trick lenses. A street packed side to side, and end-to-end, with people. Against genuinely hostile authorities, not friendly PolScot officers clearing the way and herding them safely through counter-protests. The AUOB crowd are a bunch of amateurs playing silly games.

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  9. Thomas Sands says:

    Good evening. Firstly, thank you for affording the correct accreditation to myself, the photographer.
    Secondly, I took this shot from near to the top of Union St, adjacent or in line with I think a Brewdog pub. The lens used was a Nikon 70-200mm 2.8. The only editing on this shot was cropping the sides to remove wasted space of the buildings and a bit of section of road that was in front of the folk in hi vis. Nothing has been added from anywhere else as suggested save my watermark.
    I hope this clears up any idea that you appear to think the shot has been doctored to give a false impression of the image I took. As many will confirm that is not my style and I shoot as I see and save for standard editing as above. In essence what I see is what you get.
    Have a nice evening, Thomas

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  10. Thomas Sands says:

    Good evening again. Here is the EXIF data for the shot. F4, SS1/400s, ISO 100 at a focal length of 160mm and centrally metered. At F4 the DoF is not deep which is easily noted by the lack of sharpness to the rear of the shot. This is not a stacked image or a composite. Hope this clears this up for all the Togs out there. As for carrying a 500mm prime as suggested above and handheld is just ridiculous. One, I could fit it in my top box on my bike and two, that glass is of no use at this type of event for street photography.

    Cheers, Thomas

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  11. Ted Ditchburn says:

    The focal length of lengths doesn’t alter perspective or that telephoto compression effect, which is what the discussion has been about.

    You could take the pic from the same viewpoint/place on a wide angle and blow up the central part to the same size and the compression effect would identical..though the quality would be horrible and possibly unusable.

    Here the shot as presented could have been done on about a 200-250mml lens (as the chap says he cropped it a bit…and the bit being focussed on (the mass of flags and people) could have been shot to film the frame on a 350mml or so.

    The person saying it looked maybe 500mml..or so, was right in the sense that if your area of concentration (ie the mass of flags and marchers) is blown up further to fill the whole pic framing then it would be a better quality image if shot on a longer lens.

    Any news photographer/ordinary photographer looking for an arresting picture would shoot the main holding pic on the longest lens they could, and in this case that would be a 400/500 or even longer. Or if all they had was 200mmls, they’d crop a bit and maybe tighten that even more than here.

    But it’s a question of balancing the compression/foreshortening effect and that fall off in quality.

    The compression effect isn’t *cheating* but when understood and familiar it can be like any other pic, in this one you struggle to get that number of marchers in shot above 3,000 ?

    A different issue is the packing of any march with flags, that does give more colour (ie mainly blue here..) and sense of movement, energy etc (in still pics) AND also serves to create an impression of a larger number of marchers,

    It is this dressing the march with flags, that is done routinely in these sorts of situations, and which is probably done with the effect of exagerrating numbers in mind,that is more ‘to blame’ than a photographer trying to just get a decent pic of an event.

    I think this massing effect of dyed fabric AUOB and similar rely on to try and inflate/confuse number estimates.

    This has been the same for over a hundred years …when you want to pad out a crowd hand out placards, banners or flags to as many people as you can.

    Ted

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  12. Harry Allen says:

    Wow…..what a sleuth you are……..
    Seriously, giving the daily major corruption being uncovered like the Calmac ferry, aluminum and steel contract, MSP expenses
    ,to name a few and you are wasting time on a article about the true size of a fake crowd.
    I give up ………

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    • Roger White says:

      Wow, what an interesting comment. People who drop by this blog to criticise one post are usually generally hostile to my other views. But we would agree on all those things you list (‘Calmac ferry …’ etc). We also seem to agree on the AUOB events having a ‘fake crowd’, at least if we both mean the numbers are hugely exaggerated. But I’m afraid you underestimate the importance of their propaganda. The inflated numbers and related publicity (online lies, dodgy photos) are used to give an impression of the invincible and inevitable march of a nation. Of course the events are no such thing: indeed when looked at forensically they are almost laughable. But the media (Scottish, UK, even international) often pick up the propaganda uncritically and it all feeds into the false impression the separatists wish to create. So to that extent, though not much more, these events are important. Thanks for your comment.

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